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Thread: Behold: Socialism and the obsession with race and genocide.

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    Lightbulb Behold: Socialism and the obsession with race and genocide.

    In the New York Tribune in 1853, Karl Marx came close to advocating genocide, writing, “The classes and the races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way.” His friend and collaborator, Engels, was more explicit....

    “Among all the large and small nations of Austria, only three standard-bearers of progress took an active part in history, and still retain their vitality – the Germans, the Poles and the Magyars. Hence they are now revolutionary. All the other large and small nationalities and peoples are destined to perish before long in the revolutionary world storm. For that reason they are now counter-revolutionary.

    In conclusion, the old distinction between the crimes of National Socialism (as purely racist) and socialism proper (as lacking a racial component) seems to be untenable. Both, the perpetrators of Nazi atrocities (ie, the Germans) and their victims, including the Jews and the Slavs, were white. As such, Nazi atrocities make little sense on the narrow definition of racism (i.e., black versus white). They do make sense in the broader context – the perceived necessity to exterminate all peoples who stood in the way of achieving Hitler’s utopian ideal.

    But, the same can be said of communist atrocities. The early socialists certainly toyed with the idea of racial inferiority of the darker races (i.e., narrow definition of racism), but ultimately embraced a program of genocide that was more encompassing. The best that can be said of the socialists, therefore, is that their victims were, in accordance with the universal aspirations of Marxism, more varied than those of Hitler. Let us hope that’s not the sort of inclusivity that Black Lives Matter on both sides of the Atlantic strives for.

    It is a good article and viewed this way the socialist obsession with race and their genocides makes a good deal more sense.

    As with everything else - including abortion policies and regard for the elderly - your entire worth amounts to what the state has invested in you and your worth to the state and, most importantly, your contribution to furthering the revolution or the state. Which have now become synonymous.

    This is why they have no regard for the unborn, but care much more about a young mind dedicated to the revolution and to the state.

    Even entire people and their cultures can be ruled as insufficiently loyal, and rather than simply cast them out of "paradise" they revolt against them violently. Violence permeates these early writings and is inseparable from the movement itself.

    This in itself constitutes a paradox because if communism is so wonderful, who wouldn't desire it themselves and work hard to attain it?

    They don't seem to give a shit, really. Or to ever question themselves or their motives and goals at all. Che wrote this about the Africans when they wouldn't mobilize to join him in communist conflict:

    “The Negro is indolent and lazy and spends his money on frivolities, whereas the European is forward-looking, organized and intelligent.”

    Today the only people they can find who will happily join them in violent revolt are Blacks, so they value them accordingly.

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    Hitler was not the racist that his detractors perceive him to have been.

    Hitler was not that obsessed with race believing that nature would decide which race survives or not.

    To that end , Hitler was in a way old school believing that Lebensraum was vital for Germany with good reason. Given the starvation that afflicted the Reich after the first war.

    He started to change away from that point of view right about the time war broke out.

    Hitler's views are not that different from our own alt right ideas. He knew how talented the Germans were and on their own would dominate if left alone. Hitler was, as many of us are now , who do not want to continue seeing America's white race carry the burden for all others living here.

    Hitler's goals were for the world to allow Germany to excell in industry without the Jews enriching themselves as a result. .. The Jews had other ideas ,and so the war began. Hitler felt just as much at ease dealing with dark skinned folks as he did with anyone else.

    There was a thriving chinese community in Berlin throughout the war. ., He dealt with Muslims and dark Arabs as he did with dark skinned Italians or Japanese. right?
    Last edited by Gilbert Fallgelb; 11-15-2017 at 05:26 PM.

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