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    Quote Originally Posted by jirqo adai View Post
    heres the one if you monetized your gains, take said profits for faster growth. 24MIL in cash. 5 other real estate investments still monetizing. 23MIL capitalized corp. 12MIL in total debt.
    Any investment plan marked for retirement should be in an IRA up to the max annual contribution. IRA is tax deferred. If you start yanking out profits you're going to pay a penalty plus capital gains tax .
    The only way to do as you described and it maybe work is have a separate account that is a spec account. Question: what would be your determining factors that would cause you you to decide "take profits for faster growth "?. Faster growth in what? Isn't that a bit presumptuous?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhoffa_X View Post
    In fact, everything is up but municipal bonds.
    Bond prices have an inverse relationship to interest rate of return. Lower bonds reflect an expectation or current reality of a higher interest rate. The outlook and imo high probability is that rates will rise 1% to 1 1/2% over the next 12-24 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cotton View Post
    Any investment plan marked for retirement should be in an IRA up to the max annual contribution. IRA is tax deferred. If you start yanking out profits you're going to pay a penalty plus capital gains tax .
    The only way to do as you described and it maybe work is have a separate account that is a spec account. Question: what would be your determining factors that would cause you you to decide "take profits for faster growth "?. Faster growth in what? Isn't that a bit presumptuous?
    22% is pretty good. you want better? or the same? do it agin. but not with the same company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jirqo adai View Post
    22% is pretty good. you want better? or the same? do it agin. but not with the same company.
    For one it's not "1 company ". For two, 22% is not a sustainable year over year return . For 3, if it's in an ira you pay out a third of it or more in tax and penalties. The replacement would have to return over 30%. And...youre not only being presumptuous on a set of criteria you've yet to state but you're going all in on the greater fool theory. You know I prefer the play in shorting the premiums in derivatives that are bloated by the dice tossers. So...
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    for one, J said hes up by 22%. so
    for two, hes a dumbfuck for letting it ride or B. for adding money to it.
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    I just came up with an example of how to double you money. they obviously are trading way lower then their true intrinsic value.
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    they trade for what they have in cash, and they have five other investments that they can conceivably receive 18MM for each. like they did when they sold 2.84 acres last year.
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    srry. I was in error. they have 12 projects that EACH could net them AT LEAST 18MM each. yes. past history does make an interesting prospect when gauging the future operations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhoffa_X View Post
    It's gone up 22% so far!

    That's pretty good.
    Sell. Treat the ol' lady to a nice dinner date with the proceeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jirqo adai View Post
    for one, J said hes up by 22%. so
    for two, hes a dumbfuck for letting it ride or B. for adding money to it.
    That depends entirely on the objective of the account it's held in. I believe he stated his account has an automatic rebalance feature which means it adjusts to the degree that keeps his original allocations as they were. It's a great feature as it scales down equity risk as prices rise and increases exposure as it drops. As for a company (s) trading at or below intrinsic ? I agree it's a plus but it's also for a reason . A "reason" that could be mired in a number of things . Again, yes it's an assumed plus but not a fact of future performamce. Markets and the companies within the market can remain undervalued indefinitely as there is no rule that stayed intrinsic has to be addressed. However. In a rising market as value plays begin to get scarce in the primary issues it's not uncommon for value hunters to run the prices up on secondary and terchiary issues as the rally matures. Within the secs and tercs is where the bulk of issues below actual value are found.
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