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    Gone today, here tomorrow.

    A previously extinct species of bird has re-evolved back into existence, according to a new study. The Aldabra rail first went extinct around 136,000 years ago. Now, it's reclaimed its home island.

    According to a study published Wednesday in the Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society, a peer-reviewed scientific journal, sediments from the Aldabra Atoll in the Indian Ocean show that the island has been completely submerged multiple times, wiping out all species inhabiting it. Every time, every species on the island went extinct but the Aldabra rail has returned, again and again.

    The rail is an example of iterative evolution when the same ancestral lineage leads to repeated evolution of a species at different points in time. The rare phenomenon means that species can re-emerge over and over, despite past iterations going extinct.

    The flightless bird a descendant of a species of flying bird known as the white-throated rail was completely wiped out when the island disappeared below sea level about 136,000 years ago. When sea levels fell again a few thousand years later, fossils show that the species re-colonized it, once again losing the ability to fly due to an absence of predators on the island.

    "These unique fossils provide irrefutable evidence that a member of the rail family colonised the atoll, most likely from Madagascar, and became flightless independently on each occasion," lead researcher Dr. Julian Hume, avian paleontologist and research associate at the Natural History Museum, said in a statement. "Fossil evidence presented here is unique for rails, and epitomises the ability of these birds to successfully colonise isolated islands and evolve flightlessness on multiple occasions."

    While flying was not necessary to avoid predators, it also meant the birds had no way to escape their native island once sea levels began to rise. But unlike the famous Dodo of Mauritius, the rails were able to re-emerge from Madagascar once sea levels lowered again.

    Today, the flightless Aldabra rail has once again reclaimed its island and it's now the last surviving species of flightless bird in the Indian Ocean. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/an-exti...ce-study-says/

    Whenever they say the "evidence is irrefutable", it's refutable and they're lying. But to redefine the meanings of words means they are perfectly willing to attack the very foundation of communication to fit their purposes. Why can't they just come out and admit that science is often worse than fiction?

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    Remember the Ivory-Billed Woodpecker?

    extinct: adjective -- \ ik-ˈstiŋ(k)t, ˈek-ˌstiŋ(k)t: no longer existing. -- Merriam-Webster.


    A well-orchestrated scam by The Nature Conservancy was documented by Fox News in an article titles (suc) “Woodpecker Racket?” after it was discovered that the organization made over $10 million windfall on recovery efforts for the extinct Ivory-billed woodpecker in Arkansas. The article says that The Nature Conservancy almost got away with the scheme in 2004-2006 until “Florida Gulf Coast University ornithologist Jerome A. Jackson criticized the evidence put forth to support the conclusion that the Woodpecker wasn’t extinct after all — including a four-second video of an alleged sighting which garnered widespread media attention; several other anecdotal sightings; and acoustic signals purported to be vocalization and raps from the Woodpecker” in early 2006. Still, the Nature Conservancy reaped $10.2 million in federal taxpayer funds for the conservation project that were originally intended for a more meaningful purpose.

    The event led at least one blogger to conclude “The Nature Conservancy is a Fraud”.

    Certainly The Nature Conservancy has become an expert in converting our knee-jerk responses to preserve the environment into wealth for its own coffers. The Nature Conservancy collected over $1.3 billion in revenue in 2007 and spent only about of this on environmental programs. Until the public realizes the long pattern of corruption, scandal and social manipulation ingrained within The Nature Conservancy’s corporate management, we will continue to be duped by the organization’s “do good” outward appearance. https://tncscandals.blogspot.com/200...r-scandal.html
    I think the Latin term for this methodology is Scientifica Clintonium, and it elevates bloggers to somewhere above the ivory towers, where the story has "evolved" through time like "global warming" has evolved to become "climate change":

    "The Ivory Billed Woodpecker was thought probably extinct a few decades ago," says the new, improved version. It's kinda interesting, if you're into this type of thing.

    The ivory-billed woodpecker (Campephilus principalis) is [as in the ones alive and well out there in the woods] one of the largest woodpeckers in the world, at roughly 20 inches (51 cm) long and 30 inches (76 cm) in wingspan. It is native to types of virgin forest ecosystems found in the Southeastern United States and Cuba. Habitat destruction and, to a lesser extent, hunting has reduced populations so thoroughly that the species is very probably extinct, though sporadic reports of sightings have continued into the 21st century. The ivory-billed woodpecker, dubbed the "holy grail bird" due to its appearance and behavior, is the subject of many rediscovery efforts and much speculation.

    The species is listed as critically endangered by the International Union for Conservation of Nature. The American Birding Association lists the ivory-billed woodpecker as a class 6 species, a category it defines as "definitely or probably extinct".

    Reports of at least one male ivory-billed woodpecker in Arkansas in 2004 were investigated and subsequently published in April 2005 by a team led by the Cornell Lab of Ornithology. No definitive confirmation of those reports emerged, despite intensive searching over five years following the initial sightings.

    An anonymous $10,000 reward was offered in June 2006 for information leading to the discovery of an ivory-billed woodpecker nest, roost, or feeding site. In December 2008, the Nature Conservancy announced a reward of $50,000 to the person who can lead a project biologist to a living ivory-billed woodpecker.

    In late September 2006, a team of ornithologists from Auburn University and the University of Windsor published reports of their own sightings of ivory-billed woodpeckers along the Choctawhatchee River in northwest Florida, beginning in 2005. These reports were accompanied by evidence that the authors themselves considered suggestive for the existence of ivory-billed woodpeckers. Searches in this area of Florida through 2009 failed to produce definitive confirmation.

    In January 2017, a scientist at the Naval Research Laboratory published a report of 10 sightings of ivory-billed woodpeckers, including nine in the Pearl River along the Louisiana-Mississippi border and one in the Choctawhatchee River. Three of the claimed sightings are shown in video footage of birds with flights, behaviors, field marks, and other characteristics that the author claims are not consistent with any species of the region other than the ivory-billed woodpecker. Nobody has managed to obtain indisputable photographic evidence for the persistence of the ivory-billed woodpecker, but the paper contains an analysis based on factors related to behavior and habitat suggesting that such evidence is unlikely to be obtained in time to make a difference in the conservation of this species. The identification has been received with skepticism.

    Despite published reports from Arkansas, Florida, and Louisiana, and sporadic reports elsewhere in the historic range of the species since the 1940s, no universally accepted evidence exists for the continued existence of the ivory-billed woodpecker; that is, no undisputed photographs, videos, specimens or DNA samples from feathers or feces of the ivory-billed woodpecker are available. Land acquisition and habitat restoration efforts have been initiated in certain areas where a relatively high probability exists that the species might survive to protect any possible surviving individuals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivory-billed_woodpecker

    I dindo nuttin'.


    This is unbelievable, like Bigfoot.

    Is the churn worth more than any proof? Depends on who is paying for the controversy.
    Last edited by Lum; 05-13-2019 at 09:59 AM.

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    This topic suggests a profound question. When they say "a new species has been discovered", might they really mean "a new species has been Created" and not realize it? I suppose there's no way to know.

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    It would properly frame scientific pursuit in the correct context if instead of saying "a new species has been discovered", they would just jump up and down and exclaimed, "Lookee what I found!"

    Nobody likes you anymore, so knock it the fuck off before you sink all of education.

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