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  1. #521
    Quote Originally Posted by okpstman View Post
    Let's look at this logically.

    A cop has a warrant for someone for unpaid fines for a seat belt ticket.

    He starts to arrest the guy, and the guy runs.

    Should the cop shoot him in the back?
    Sometimes a police officer can, and should, shoot a suspect in the back. (See the "Fleeing Felon Rule")

    Generally speaking? Fuck no..





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  2. #522
    A good example of the rule in action is Michael Brown.

    Front, back.. Whatever, the officer should have shot him on the spot to protect the public.





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  3. #523
    Quote Originally Posted by Jhoffa_X View Post
    Sometimes a police officer can, and should, shoot a suspect in the back. (See the "Fleeing Felon Rule")

    Generally speaking? Fuck no..
    If you give the cops that option........they'll try to apply it to EVERY case.

    Now, if YOU shoot someone in the back as they flee YOU........what happens? You go to prison.

    Even if the guy ran up, sucker punched you, raped you, stole your cash, and THEN ran away........if you shoot him in the back, you'll go to jail.

  4. #524
    Quote Originally Posted by Jhoffa_X View Post
    A good example of the rule in action is Michael Brown.

    Front, back.. Whatever, the officer should have shot him on the spot to protect the public.
    Same thing I ask......

    If the guy wouldn't have been a cop.........would the DA have charged him?

    Of course he would have.

    Yet we give police that right.......when most of them are psychopaths.

  5. #525
    Quote Originally Posted by okpstman View Post
    If you give the cops that option........they'll try to apply it to EVERY case.
    Regardless, it's a well established option.. But there are limits to it.

    Trying to convince a grand jury that some seat belt violator deserved to be blown away in the middle of the street might be a tough sell.





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  6. #526
    Quote Originally Posted by Jhoffa_X View Post
    Regardless, it's a well established option.. But there are limits to it.

    Trying to convince a grand jury that some seat belt violator deserved to be blown away in the middle of the street might be a tough sell.
    Unless it's a cop.......and the DA doesn't press the matter.

    But that's silly isn't it?

    I mean DA's are all above board honest, and would NEVER automatically take a cops side.

  7. #527
    Quote Originally Posted by okpstman View Post
    Same thing I ask......

    If the guy wouldn't have been a cop.........would the DA have charged him?

    Of course he would have.

    Yet we give police that right.......when most of them are psychopaths.
    Probably.. But, they really shouldn't have.

    He was a bad person. We're better off without him.

    A better question might be if we want the police to burn down his house, killing kids, neighbors who were visiting, his rap band in the garage, etc..

    How is society served by that?





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  8. #528
    Quote Originally Posted by Jhoffa_X View Post
    Probably.. But, they really shouldn't have.

    He was a bad person. We're better off without him.

    A better question might be if we want the police to burn down his house, killing kids, neighbors who were visiting, his rap band in the garage, etc..

    How is society served by that?

    Society is better off for that............until the cops decide that DLP is a cess pool of anti-authority trouble makers......and decide to burn down every members home as well.

    That slippery slope thing.....

  9. #529
    We want to respect law and order. We really do.

    Yet those sworn to uphold it.....are worse than many of the criminals out there.

  10. #530
    It's a matter of degrees.. Reasonable people know what this means.

    It's unreasonable to kill someone over a seat belt violation.

    It doesn't serve society in any way at all.





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